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Offline Short Stuff

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Wheel Identification
« on: October 29, 2018, 01:00:23 PM »

Can anyone shed some light on this logo?



I'm trying to identify a wheel that was mounted to a doner bike I acquired.

This logo appears on the brake drum, along with the numbers 764

It appears on the hub, along with the numbers 773

And it appears on the brake plate along with the numbers 765

The rim is Gold and is stamped Takasago J 17 x 2.15 DOT 171 Japan 982

I just want to know so I can advertise the wheel for sale, with some confidence that I know what it came off!

If it's of any use to anyone, please feel free to PM me.

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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2018, 05:14:45 PM »
For the last few days ive been trying to recall where the hell Id seen that pigeon foundry mark previously as its familiar but its not coming to me at all.
The Japs have a long history with metallurgy and about every prefecture has its own foundry.
Mostly I stick with Suzuki but there have been a few oddballs like bridgestone. That Logo has me stuffed but I have seen it before.
 What did it come with?

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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2018, 05:17:24 PM »
It's often on older Honda castings.

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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 06:01:12 PM »
For the last few days ive been trying to recall where the hell Id seen that pigeon foundry mark previously as its familiar but its not coming to me at all.
The Japs have a long history with metallurgy and about every prefecture has its own foundry.
Mostly I stick with Suzuki but there have been a few oddballs like bridgestone. That Logo has me stuffed but I have seen it before.
 What did it come with?

The wheel was mounted to a DR200, but it's not an original wheel.

The brake shoes are stamped Suzuki, but they are of ASK production, and their part number points to TS400 brakes (from what I've found)

I've got Mick Hone on the case t ok, but at this stage, he's stumped too!

Thanks for your input.

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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 08:36:29 PM »
The TS250 uses the same hub as the 400 and Im sure all the backing plates have the Suzuki S like this one.

 The GT250 backing plates also had the S as did the GT550 so I dont think its suzuki.


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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2018, 06:00:32 PM »
I've just built some wheels using a DR500 rear hub - the hub shell, brake plate and sprocket carrier all have that 'bird' logo with a three-digit number next to it. I also have the DR400 (and USA-model RS250) sprocket carrier, which fits the same hub shell - it has the 'bird' logo with three-digit number as well. All these parts also have "MADE IN JAPAN" cast in. Curiously, none of these parts have the trademark Suzuki "S", as seen on the brake plate in Pokey's photo. I have a few other Suzuki early PE and RM hub casting parts which I could check, but they aren't within reach at the moment.

I'm happy to be corrected by someone who knows, but I'd guess the 'bird' logo to belong to a company that made dies and/or castings for the Japanese motorcycle industry. Momus' comment about finding the same logo on old Honda parts seems to show that at least two of the 'Big Four' used this company for making dies and/or castings. This obviously doesn't help Short Stuff, as all we know at the moment is that the parts are Japanese! It may be worth posting a photo of the whole hub with some dimensions, in the hope that someone will recognise it.

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James

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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2018, 06:48:12 PM »
Thanks James,

What you have said is sorta/kinda what I thought.

Perhaps "the Bird" foundry manufactured for a number of bike brands, so they used a generic logo.  Mick Hone suggested the same thing.  As I said, the brake shoes are stamped Suzuki, so at this stage I'm gonna say it's a DR 250 wheel, and it's up for sale!

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Re: Wheel Identification
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2018, 08:12:51 PM »

Can anyone shed some light on this logo?



I'm trying to identify a wheel that was mounted to a doner bike I acquired.

This logo appears on the brake drum, along with the numbers 764

It appears on the hub, along with the numbers 773

And it appears on the brake plate along with the numbers 765

The rim is Gold and is stamped Takasago J 17 x 2.15 DOT 171 Japan 982

I just want to know so I can advertise the wheel for sale, with some confidence that I know what it came off!

If it's of any use to anyone, please feel free to PM me.

It's Honda I'd say by the foundry mark and quite likely from an XR500. A decent photo would be a help.