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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2017, 10:04:39 AM »
The mounts are original. No way this pipe is/was for anything but a center port. The tricky thing is if i had seen the pipe just from a photo i would have never had bought it because the header section makes it look as if it is for a side port but its not. I was just lucky enough to see it fitted to a bike first. It makes me wonder how many other times i have passed on similar looking pipes that i did not think would fit center port 185 and 250's, although bolt on silencer is a big clue i guess. 76 and older did not have that.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 10:07:06 AM by LWC82PE »
Wanted - 1978 TS185 frame
Orange Don Vesco/MS/Windsor tank
ADB Mags (vol 2 no.2) nov/dec 77& jan/feb 78 (vol2 no.3)

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2017, 10:06:37 AM »
Can via android see the full pipe pic. Header and first cone look Bassani.specially the odd angle joint.

Key to the centre port is the width of the U bend in the header. Side port bassani header has no straight section there.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 10:13:54 AM by pokey »

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2017, 10:12:50 AM »
yeah i know but i am pretty sure someone checked a late 70's Bassani catalogue for me at one time and said nothing listed for beyond 76 models.

Strader is another manufacturer but nothing solid showing in a listing i have for around 76/77. Lists one for 77 PE250, RM250/370 and a TS185 but no ID on 185 year so i would assume its older side port.

I think J&R made them for this model but i have not got any 100% solid info or photos.

Here is a MCM pipe from 1974 that uses 2 screws for shield

« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 10:32:02 AM by LWC82PE »
Wanted - 1978 TS185 frame
Orange Don Vesco/MS/Windsor tank
ADB Mags (vol 2 no.2) nov/dec 77& jan/feb 78 (vol2 no.3)

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2017, 11:00:52 AM »
Ditto to Hoony's comments although I can see the photos on this page now but that could be because Leith changed some settings.

I already had the latest Firefox version but I just upgraded to the 64 bit version, still can't see the Yamaha  DT 322 pics.

Strangely, despite all the warnings from photobucket my photos still seem to be live??

Also I recall seeing new vintage exhausts in the early 90's that used washers for spring hooks
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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2017, 12:18:26 PM »
Had a quick look around and both Hooker and Torque have used washer retainers. Hooker appear to be more of a formed pipe rather than constructed. Torque seems to be the better option to concentrate your search as the construction is consistent with its finish and methods.

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2017, 04:56:32 PM »
I did speak to someone this week who sold hundreds of Torque and J&R's through his ebay store and prior to that in his shop over many years and he did say it does look a lot like a Torque because they typically used 3 cones and then later 4 with the last bit of the header section tapered which mine has. I have  a lot of Torque photos but they are all a bit different/older and none have a washer for the spring to hook onto. Some appear to have the shield held on by nuts and not screws though, indicating a bolt or stud was welded to the pipe rather than 1/4' nuts like most i have seen. Not many pics out there on the internet now. I just save what i see on ebay listings. It would be good to see what a late 70's Torque looks like. Anyone got any pics?

Not a Hooker either. I got Hooker catalogues 78-79 and there are only 76 and older TS pipes in there.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2017, 04:59:16 PM by LWC82PE »
Wanted - 1978 TS185 frame
Orange Don Vesco/MS/Windsor tank
ADB Mags (vol 2 no.2) nov/dec 77& jan/feb 78 (vol2 no.3)

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2017, 07:18:35 PM »
Bassani used Wire ( coat hanger probably) not washers for header spring retention.
Whats it off and any chance of a full shot of the pipe? could help with the ID as I have seen pipes with washers but its not  jumping out at me. Looks early 70s and I dont think they had TIG or MIG untill the late 70s so Oxy was the tool of choice.
TIG and MIG both invented in the '40's.

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2017, 08:29:07 PM »
Really  yamaico? Well there ya go. I can remember just, at TAFE fresh out of school getting a go of this new welder that just sprayed faultless welds My mig seems to be full of budjies with a upset tummies.

The 40s hey , never would have picked that.

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Re: Exhaust pipe manufacturer ID
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2017, 10:58:36 PM »
Not quite as refined as they are now Pokey, (but likely better quality than some), but they were there.