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Offline martian170

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New pre 60 project
« on: December 11, 2016, 12:22:16 AM »

Been looking for one of these for years then found two in bits both two stroke both water cooled 500 and 600 cc one for the road the other for grass track we see

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 06:47:06 AM »
very interesting & nice , what make are they ?
good to see any kind of 2 stroke, especially this old
will anybody moan because they are not air cooled ?
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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 06:51:09 AM »
What an absolutely incredible find. There used to be one or two at the Nabiac Motorcycle Museum.
I think I will be there again in the near future. If they still there?
I will get some pictures for you  8) cool as mate, what a score 8)
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2016, 07:14:49 AM »
very interesting & nice , what make are they ?
good to see any kind of 2 stroke, especially this old
will anybody moan because they are not air cooled ?

The "Scott" Motorcycle company, an english company founded in the early 1900's.

The Scott Squirrel was introduced in 1922, as a 486cc. ( I remember because it was My old boys birth year).
It was quickly changed to the 498cc? and 596cc? Scott Super Squirrel.

Both the first and second world wars stuffed this company around big time.

It is said that they developed a 750 and 1000cc two stroke water cooled triples in the 1930's, but the commencement of the second world war stopped commercial production.
After the second world war they released a 500 and 600 version called the Flying Squirrel.

Absolutely amazing find.

I am pretty sure the only thing ever invented by the rising sun was plagiarism.
 



 
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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2016, 07:31:01 AM »
my dad had a recording of scotts racing at the iom gp the sound was very different ot other bikes they make great road racers
dads other favorite bike after ariel square fours
great find

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2016, 07:34:27 AM »
my dad had a recording of scotts racing at the iom gp the sound was very different ot other bikes they make great road racers
dads other favorite bike after ariel square fours
great find

Awesome, I bet they had a different sound alright. Would be awesome if that recording still existed 8)
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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2016, 10:37:35 AM »



May sound strange but that's why I wanted to race one , not many people Know about Scotts yet alone seen one And the vast majority won't have heard one , the only problem I have is you can't buy a manual so building by pictures ( google images ) took a picture of spare crank flywheel with Pistons note the grooves in the piston the fuel tank has two parts and is basically an auto lube system has separate pump driven from crank and two stroke oil has pumped around the slots are for oiling of the barrel ? 

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2016, 10:39:59 AM »

Number one built a few missing parts tyres bars mag sprocket and possibly lots more that I don't know about

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2016, 10:43:43 AM »

I read somewhere the radiators are made from silver to aid heat dispersion they are certainly heavy enough

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2016, 10:44:45 AM »
Wasn't there another British 2 stroke called a 'Silk' or something like that ?,
 built in the 1970s with a similar engine I vaguely remember
Nice bikes

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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2016, 11:10:38 AM »
Yes from what I info I have read the Scott was built in Shipley then I think the company changed hands and was then built in Birmingham this is when the silk came into it , same bike but one was a Shipley Scott the other known as a silk Birmingham Scott , there where no others that I know of , I gather Scott was 60 plus years before his time first water cooled bikes around 1912. I thought my 81 cr Hondas where the first how wrong was I

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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2016, 11:18:04 AM »
Silks were built in Derbyshire in the 1970s with a Scott engine, a Spondon chassis and a Velocette gearbox.
Nostalgia's not what it used to be....

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2016, 11:34:43 AM »
Awesome find, good to see progress photos of the resto's.


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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2016, 10:51:58 AM »
That's a great video 8)

They had adds for these in the old popular mechanic mags when I was a youngen.
Still drooling  ::)
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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2016, 01:40:17 PM »
Genuine upside down forks too! 

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2016, 07:54:59 PM »
MMmm crossflow piston in a 2 smoke. very linear... would be a nice thing and just soo different.

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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2016, 11:36:26 PM »
Cruised through the old ancesteral stomping grounds today, raced in and grabbed a few quick happy snaps 600cc  8) 8)


Didn't have long. I had unwilling passengers ::) It was tucked in between 899 other bikes ::)
I will be back up there over the crissy holidays to do some grave maintenance.
He said he will roll it out for me so I can do a proper photoshoot 8) with a propper camera :)

 

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« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2016, 12:12:08 AM »
Genuine upside down forks too!

Oooooh he better not turn up at one of them pre 90 vinduro's on his 1947 bike ::)
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« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2016, 02:02:07 PM »
Way ahead of their time, I would seriously consider sacrificing my left nut to have one of these.





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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2016, 10:39:10 PM »
Our Family have owned quite few scotts, we still have a 2 speed scott and a 350 air cooled scott.

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2016, 08:48:41 PM »
Trying to figure out fuel tanks and oil tank ( however the more I look the more questions I find) one tank has one cap for fuel only the other tank two caps one for fuel the other for two stroke oil but in the photo that mick D took it shows a dual tank and an oil tank can anyone explain what I am missing ? Both engines have two stroke oil injection to the bearings I just assumed one bike the 1937 would run tank and separate oil tank and bike two 1947 would run dual tank only ??? Ps anyone know where I can find a manual for ignition set up ( and everything else come to mind) as in the photo again it shows a dizzy would this be self powering like the 37 is or power fed from  maggy/ Dynamo

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2016, 10:06:34 PM »
Send a message to the scott owners club, they will answer your question.
www.scotttechnicalities.com.au),
steven@enticott.com.au

This document maintained by webmaster@scottownersclub.org.
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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2016, 12:06:51 AM »
Oh wow thanks for that CDBM info overload just what I need and its in oz

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Re: New pre 60 project
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2016, 01:02:00 PM »
Good luck with it, I hope it will help. cheers