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Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« on: August 24, 2007, 11:09:46 AM »
Hey probally a waste of time but worth asking , can any one out there who has or would sell me a AM frame for a 250 single with twin front down tubes send me a PM ?

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2007, 08:30:07 PM »
would a dalesman frame do the job,mate has one,had sachs motor fitted

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2007, 09:17:07 PM »
dont think it would  take an early 2 stroke 250 yamaha motor ? 

 i have never seen a dalesman but i would think they are geared up for english type motors and the like pre 70 ?- what era is this thing ?
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2007, 09:31:37 AM »
Plenty of these type frames come up on eBay Freaky. Often they're as cheap as chips. I found my latest project, a super rare Hindall framed Ducati 350 (below) for a song. Over the years I've bought a Metisse, a Champion and a Trackmaster frame on eBay for less than a grand. In fact the Trackmaster only cost me $145us. It was covered in surface rust and the seller didn't know what it was. I did and got one of the bargains of the year.



Check out ebay item#180147063104, a Trackmaster Bultaco frame that only got bids up to $203 but didn't reach reserve (probably $500) and eBay item # 220138130482, a '75-77 Bultaco Astro frame that sold for a pissy $295.80.
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2007, 11:38:24 AM »

Here's a sweet little AT1 Yamaha Trackmaster

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2007, 05:25:08 PM »
Freaky,
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« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2007, 11:35:04 PM »
Cool Ducati Firko. That'll match your Hindall Yamaha pretty nicely I reckon.

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2007, 11:52:41 PM »
Hodaka must have loved Trackmasters AT1 homage to their frames!!! ::) Cheers Tim
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2007, 11:28:04 AM »
  have a look at eBay #220143755770   
A nice little Champion 2 stroke Yamaha roller.

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2007, 05:35:14 PM »
that red one firko is for a pre 73 At1/ ct1, had a guy check it out and it fits with the yam261 code on the frame.

however i have gotten onto a KR roller and a pallet of motors/performance kit - i just need to find a good ($) eway of getting it to Long beach any one got any bright ideas ? or contacts that haul interstate ?  i might even share the spoils ?
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2007, 09:00:04 PM »
these guys transport and you can email them for a quote

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2007, 11:05:52 PM »
yep saw that one paul, but what im after is a just frame and swing arm otherwise i just keep buying bikes, i got engine just want a roller or frame .  cheers for posting though
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2007, 04:50:50 PM »
  Freaky  check out  Item number: 330165261609. It could well be a good deal.

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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2007, 05:16:49 PM »
GOT ME THERE DIDNT SEE THAT ONE :o

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2007, 09:17:19 PM »
  Freaky  check out  Item number: 330165261609. It could well be a good deal.

YAM-7 = 74 DT175A-B , MX125/175A-B , & YZ125A-B

NOT SURE IT WOULD TAKE THE same motor in a 250, but for the price might be worth modding  ? also i got tank and glass for that short track frame here already  :-X

must admit i missed it too paul, what search did you jag that on ? i was on till 11pm last night unless it listed after that.
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2007, 07:06:43 PM »
here another on ebay usa

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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2007, 07:17:13 PM »
thanks but needs to be for 2 stroke motors, dont want to mess up a nickle frame rewelding or bastardise a perfectly complet bike. 

Also looks like a 125 frame so too small for the 2 fity.
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2007, 07:31:27 PM »
yep that bloke has a whole pile of them , most still new in the crate, couldnt sell them back then, still having trouble today by the look of it.  to obscure and to risky.

think Roller or frame Paul, easier to deal with i reckon ;) , although id go a full Astro  :D
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2007, 07:36:56 PM »
ok im  on the job     ;)
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2007, 09:41:08 PM »
Hate to tell you this paul but already sussed those out.  I got my Ebay monitor set to detect, i keeps pinging them to me as soon as they hit the radr, the Xs would be a good buy but then again its only an xs and i cant fix a 4 stroke.
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2007, 10:29:26 PM »
I like the XS ,I will post a ad for a 650 streettracker tomorrow it's on my other computer. I'm looking for one on the road and will mod it to do a bit of both !.
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Re: Champion, redline, trackmaster or similar frame.
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2007, 10:45:32 PM »
Yes, all the XS flat trackers look way porn.   The stock street one's do nothing for me.

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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2007, 12:09:46 AM »
There's two of those Shell framed XS750s here in Sydney including Phippsys ex Eddie Lawson OW750 TT bike with not one original XS part in the engine. It's a work of art as anyone who's seen it will tell you.

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2007, 08:26:49 AM »
nsw ? why they not going to the nationals ?
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2007, 09:21:38 AM »
They are but with different bikes. There's no class for the 750s.

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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2007, 04:29:25 PM »
why cant you run the 750 in the open class ?  they are over 250cc and i though the xs series motors where classed as pre 75.     what didnt i read in the rule book this time. :o
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2007, 08:08:54 PM »
You can but they just aren't competitive on these tracks. Trust me, both owners are A graders who've been around a lot of years and they'd ride them if there was an advantage. It's horses for courses.

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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2007, 08:23:46 PM »
To true Firko, that little flat tracker with the Super Combat Hodaka 125 pictured a little earlier  would most likely make the C class 750s look like big fat heavy slugs on a dirttrack circuit. Freaky my Champion Redline Yamaha is actually a "TT' model it was designed for the Flat tracks with the little jumps included (No so flattracks??). Is a fun bloody nightmare to try launching it I tell you!! Tim
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« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2007, 12:39:46 AM »
Here it is ,I dont think i would win if i was on a state of the art racer so i want to race something thats loud and looks cool . a spare set of forks and wheels will do me . I only need it on the road to ride down for the superbikes and motogp and the rest of the year i can run D/T. The Unlimited bikes at musswellbrook 2 years ago might have been a bit slower than the modern's but they had class and they sounded shit hot .

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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2007, 10:23:19 AM »
Here it is ,I dont think i would win if i was on a state of the art racer so i want to race something thats loud and looks cool . a spare set of forks and wheels will do me . I only need it on the road to ride down for the superbikes and motogp and the rest of the year i can run D/T. The Unlimited bikes at musswellbrook 2 years ago might have been a bit slower than the modern's but they had class and they sounded shit hot .

Looks good but shouldn't you run a 19" rear?
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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2007, 06:27:15 PM »
Nice wheels god ,i havent got one yet but i,m working on it
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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2007, 08:52:36 PM »
Here it is ,I dont think i would win if i was on a state of the art racer so i want to race something thats loud and looks cool . a spare set of forks and wheels will do me . I only need it on the road to ride down for the superbikes and motogp and the rest of the year i can run D/T. The Unlimited bikes at musswellbrook 2 years ago might have been a bit slower than the modern's but they had class and they sounded shit hot .

Looks good but shouldn't you run a 19" rear?
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thats OK if you can get them tyres here, maxxis are all 19" over there yet we only have the michelins, or the speedways in that size, iN Au he would be bette rin the 18' as he will be able to buy them a lot cheaper and easier.
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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2007, 07:23:56 PM »
looking looking ----still looking :O)
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2007, 11:42:46 PM »
The're everywhere Freaky. You'd be mad not to buy this one. I may go for it myself if you don't
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-YZ-yamaha-yz-250-Flat-track-racing-motorcycle_W0QQitemZ320163611966QQihZ011QQcategoryZ50052QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the top one is suss as, he wont email back except once when he gave me the engine numbe which was a 77 YZ 250 and the frame was somthing else, he has no idea. ALso it had about 14 shill bids on it when it sold last week.  stay away that one is trouble
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« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2007, 02:53:02 PM »
Well finally i have found the right frame to suit my spare yza motor and got another MX250 in the deal. ......... well until next time that is.



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