cr125 1989 rear wheel spoke count

[rocketfrog]

I am about to order a set of rear spokes for a 1989 CR125 and I have hit a stumble with regards to the number of rear spokes.

The wheel in question has a 36 spoke configuration but the parts list has a count of 16 inners and 16 outers to make a total of 32?

Are the Aussie delivered wheels 36 and US 32, does anyone know?

Perhaps someone with a stock 18 inch rear might do a count and reply to confirm the quantity required please.

[rocketfrog]

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[bigk]

Plenty of Hondas have 32 spoke rear wheels. If the parts book says 32 for the year model it will be correct, if your wheel has 36 it's been changed.
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[matcho mick]

i'm thinking wtf,worse case you got 4 spare spokes ,

[rocketfrog]

Worse case would be a set we could not use wouldn't it?

I imagine the the 32 spoke set would be slightly longer given the the extra lay over to space the 32 points equally around the same circumference.

Are there any identifiers on the hub that denote the year of manufacture so we might correctly ascertain the origin of the hub if it is not the original unit?

Everywhere I have looked I see the 89 should have 32 so I am inclined to think the rear wheel is not std if it has 36.

Obviously sites like partzilla and the such quote numbers designated for the US market, I have tried Blue City Honda in Mt Gambier on line parts breakdown and it says 32 also, so I am inclined to think 32 is the go.

[matcho mick]

don't think 11.25deg of seperations going to make forkall difference to length compare to 10deg,just saying ,

[rocketfrog]

Perhaps your right Mick, if it was the other way I wouldnt hesitate to trim the spokes shorter if need be, but I cannot trim them longer if it does not work.

Worst case is I would have to buy 4 loose spokes to do the job assuming 1.5 degrees makes no difference.

Still I would like to know if anyone else has a 32 spoke rear on their 89 model just for reference.

Cheers Jason

[smed]

Can you post up some pics of the hub? There may be Identification on the hub somewhere like KS6 or KZ4 for example , You may have the incorrect wheel, Some Honda models from around that time had crap hubs & the wheel bearing mounting flanges flogged out, Have you ever replaced the rear sprocket? If it's not the right wheel the part number for the sprocket would be wrong

[Nathan S]

87/88 have 36 spokes and six bolts holding the rear rotor on.
89+ have 32 spokes and four bolts for the brake rotor.

[rocketfrog]

Thats the sort of info I need guys. Many thanks, I will pass this on to old matey so we can get the ID right before the spokes are ordered.

I will post more info for future reference as it comes.

Cheers Jason

P.S Smed the bike is on the other side of town in Brisbane (not my bike, I only offered to replace the spokes as the last scrutineering advised that his spokes were too rusty to run). But I will definitely check for those codes. Nathan, the brake rotor bolt count will be a quick way to sort the wheat from the chaff.

[GMC]

Yes sort out what the hub is first, different qty of spokes means different hub which may have altogether different spoke lengths to what you need.

Went to buy a sprocket for a 96 CR 125 once, didn't fit. turned out it had a KX wheel in it

[rocketfrog]

I'm onto it Geoff, I certainly suspect a replacement wheel has slipped into the mix at some point.

[Lozza]

don't think 11.25deg of seperations going to make forkall difference to length compare to 10deg,just saying ,

I thought that too until I roughly calculated 1° on a 18in wheel(I know that isn't where the nipple is) that was 3.97mm of circumference per degree 10 ° is 39.7mm between spoke holes 11.25° is 44.7mm between holes for the 32 spoke wheel

[matcho mick]

phhhaaarrrkkkk

[rocketfrog]

196mm x 16 and 193mm x 16 for inners and outers for the 32 spoke 1989 CR125

192.5 x 36 for the 1988 CR125

I am guessing we are dealing with a 1988 wheel, OEM spokes are available from Honda ($106.20 US), not many aftermarket crowds do a 36 spoke kit. Buchannons will make stainless to order at approximately $110 US. 36 pieces @ 192.5mm all the same spoke straight pull.

Titmans can do the same but I have not been quoted, I will get a quote tomorrow.

Given the difference in length and the angle, I would say the 89 spokes (plus 4 extras) would not do the job because the spokes would be stressed and the off set would be out.