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Hannibal's Elephant
« on: December 31, 2012, 05:16:25 PM »
G'day viewers I've had this idea for a long time. I'm putting together a old Honda 350 twin scrambler  but setting it up as a desert sled   :o with no BLING at all the bike will be built on a boot lace budget. I scored a CB250 rolling frame with a SL 350 engine  off Hitatreeonce back in 2009 the CD event in Queensland. So if anyone has ideas let me know. The bike will be for fun not a race winner just a big lump to hang out with   ;D jimson
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 05:21:00 PM »
Absolutely love the idea!
I've got a thing about 70's desert racing.  ;D

Hey Tim754, have you still got the SL350 in the shed?

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« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2012, 05:56:50 PM »

There you go mate
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2012, 06:17:27 PM »
I have bought a cool old school tank on ebay a while back and pinched a set of foot pegs off a XR75 and they fit without stuffing around  8) when I was at the local tip I bought a $2 skate board for the seat base  ::) jimson
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« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2012, 06:25:01 PM »
Rock on Jimson ;D ;D......this will be a great build. I'm turning Nathans old DT1 into a desert sled too....same philosophy, no restoration, no bling (I've got enough of them) and lots of patina. Keep us in the loop mate.  Here's someone elses under construction SL
                                                                   
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Re: Hannibal's Elephant
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2012, 06:58:41 PM »
As mentioned elsewhere, there is a thread on ADV rider of just such a build up for the Baja last year. That's worth a look but they do run later forks and shocks etc....

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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2012, 10:44:24 PM »
EML yes I've read that thread and its great but not keeping with the old school way of things I want my bike to look like some one just bought a large station out bush and found a shed opened the door for the first time in 40 years and there she is   Hannibal's Elephant  ;D jimson
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« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2013, 11:53:27 AM »
I  like your style then. Keen to see the results.

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Re: Hannibal's Elephant
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2013, 08:03:57 PM »
Hey Tim754, have you still got the SL350 in the shed? No sold cheaply it to a Honda "keeper restorer racer"  Got suitably conned by the ......... >:(    Yep pissed off.
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Re: Hannibal's Elephant
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2013, 09:44:08 PM »



Photos posted for jimson
« Last Edit: January 03, 2013, 02:28:42 PM by KJ222 »
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Re: Hannibal's Elephant
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2013, 11:47:21 PM »
Thanks for your help with the pic's Ken but I think you missed one  :'(  well as you can see I had some pipes bent up at first I didn't like it but now its growing on me. I like them I think  ::) I'm looking for some shocks now maybe a pair of NJB as they look oldschool what do you blokes think. Jimson
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2013, 12:26:58 AM »
 I ordered NJBs straight from the boss. He's a good bloke. I feel NJBs are are a good cheap choice as long as the amount of travel is fairly limited. I wouldn't use them on a later long travel twinshock.

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2013, 10:05:30 AM »
Garry, the pipes look great. At first I thought WTF ??? but after sitting looking at the photos over my morning Machiato and Tim Tam they finally grew on me. Seeing that you're building the bike as a desert sled I reckon the ace shocks to use would be a pair of Curnutts. These shocks were the hot set up for desert racers in the early to mid seventies, hardly a bike was seen in the Mojave without them. Although they're a bit on the obscure side here in OZ they often turn up on imported bikes so someone might have a set laying around. Parts are still available for them and there's a bloke on Marks Swapmeet that offers a rebuild service. Another good period shock popular with desert racers is Arnaco. Arnaco's still come up on eBay from time to time, I've got a few sets myself, including the set that Walter rebuilt on my Cheney. Curnutt are still in business producing mountain bike shocks (as is Fox Shox)
Both Curnutts and Arnacos are very advanced for their time with Curnutts being very similar internally to Works Performance and Arnacos having a stacked shim design and external dampening adjustment (that actually works) 20 years before Ohlins and the other biggies. Out of curiosity, what length shocks are you needing? I'll have a squiz through my shock stash and see what I may have.

What tank are you going to use? I've got a very cool fibreglass aftermarket Husky desert tank I can sell you for less than it cost me just to get it out of the shed. I've also got an alloy Hi-Point 2 gallon tank that'll suit but it's a bit more expensive and knowing you're on a budget it mightn't fit into the concept.

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Here's a couple of very cool CL350 Street trackers............ http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2012/10/2/studio-motors-honda-cl350-no27.html
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Re: Hannibal's Elephant
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 12:18:01 AM »
Thanks Ken for the pic's.Firko I'm going to use the old school honda tank in the bottom pic. I think the shocks are 330mm the bottom mount is a clevis type I'm thinking the NJB shocks are the way to go for the price and they look old school. Jimson
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Re: Hannibal's Elephant
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2013, 03:29:33 PM »
Damn ya Jimson inspired to build a CB 500 four desert sled now.  ;)
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