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the new look VMX rule book
« on: September 15, 2011, 11:14:29 AM »
You will all notice a big change in the rules for 2012; the split has now taken place and there is now Classic MX for Pre 78 and older and Post Classic MX for pre 90. There are a few points that should be made so here we go
Classic MX;Everything remains effectivly the same except we are adding acceptable follow-on machines and 2 examples are the DT250B and TS400 center port models. Why? these bike are essentially the same as pre 75 bikes and cheap and available; there must be ways for people to get entry level bikes and this move is designed to make it accessable and cheap to get a bike and go racing.
In the pre 65 and pre 60 please note the frame section that will allow you to build a special easily but keep in mind you will still need period engine, forks, wheels etc and the bike can not be made using components from a later era. For example you cant use a head stock from a YZ80 in your made up frame or triple clamps from a 73 Canam.
Post Classic MX;
Pre 90 is in
Age racing in EVO
Otherwise the same as it was
Brisbane has the Classic MX Championship for 2012 and Tasmania the Post Classic
Canberra has put in for the Dirt Track and it may well be negociated to run a combined meeting for the DT alone.There is strong interest for the MX Nats for future years but as yet no proposals for the 2013 and onward events

The section 18 of the rule book has been removed and completly replaced with simpler rules that should make it a lot easier to understand

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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2011, 11:45:15 AM »
All good news.

Do we have any dates for either of the 2012 MX Nats events? Even a ball-park or proposed?
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2011, 12:07:27 PM »
at this stage the Pre 78 will be the June long weekend (confirmed and not the May date previously anounced) and Post Classic around September

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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2011, 12:09:10 PM »
Cool, thanks.  :)
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2011, 12:31:29 PM »
I like the sound of all of that. Although just an example, I am a bit confused by the DT250B thing. The C was the same wasn't it? And June long weekend for the Pre 78 Nats. Hmmmm....

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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2011, 12:45:21 PM »
What happens with the sidecars Dave, do we spit same as the rest, pre65-75 to classic and pre85-90 to post classic?
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« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2011, 01:03:22 PM »
I like the sound of all of that. Although just an example, I am a bit confused by the DT250B thing. The C was the same wasn't it? And June long weekend for the Pre 78 Nats. Hmmmm....

Graeme, - not sure of the C but Im sure someone will comment.

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2011, 01:06:40 PM »
What happens with the sidecars Dave, do we spit same as the rest, pre65-75 to classic and pre85-90 to post classic?
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sidecars remain the same, pre 68 and pre 75 in the Classic and pre 85 in the post classic. There was not a submission to put pre 90 in the rules but nothing stopping you doing it if you want to stick up your hand and make the proposal.

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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2011, 01:12:09 PM »
I like the sound of all of that. Although just an example, I am a bit confused by the DT250B thing. The C was the same wasn't it? And June long weekend for the Pre 78 Nats. Hmmmm....

Graeme, - not sure of the C but Im sure someone will comment.
i'll comment.
same bike different colours.
i'd be ok if it was included.
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2011, 01:24:21 PM »
 A-B -C all the same bike sort of the MXA with a head light and blinkers ( removable at your option i reckon ) ;)
So does that mean now are follow on model in the pre 75 class.
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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2011, 02:35:39 PM »
Can we asume that because it's engine is very different to the previous 360, the DT400 B won't be included in the flow on Dave? If the 76 TS400 is now allowed, are the '75 'Sunburst' TM 125/250/400 allowed as well (as long as the rear suspension is brought back to '74 specs)?
I've been giving this flow on thing a bit of thought and I reckon a few more post '75 bikes are worth considering because they offer little or no technical advantage over their pre '75 predecessors.

*In the USA they allow '75 4 speed 400/440 Maicos as long as they're retro fitted with '74 external spring forks and limited rear suspension. The 250 is not included because the '74 4 speed trans has been replaced by a 5 speed. As it is right now the '75  Maico is in a kind of no-mans land as it's too primitive for pre '78 yet too new for pre '75 despite almost identical engine and suspension specs (except for the forks)
*'75 MX2 Can-Am 125/250 as long as the suspension is brought back to '74 MX1 specs.
*'75 Husky 250 Mag.
*'75 Kawasaki KX125/250
*'76 Honda XL250/350 Centre Port.

There are many more bikes that deserve to be considered for eventual inclusion. With the Classic Pre '75 era about to undertake a rebirth of sorts,  I reckon we need tro make bike selection as open and varied as possible to aid attracting newcomers.
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2011, 03:02:23 PM »
so dave same weekend as classic dirt?
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »
Surely not, MA are smarter than that ??? ??? ??? then again.
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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2011, 03:52:18 PM »
Classic Dirt is moving to a different time slot to better suit the weather conditions of the new venue ;).
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Re: the new look VMX rule book
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2011, 04:00:34 PM »
Its cool Bazza; I have the inside running on CD secret squirrel.