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Offline HuskyPete

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Ammex
« on: April 30, 2011, 02:02:36 PM »
1967 360 Viking, 1969 360 Cross, 1974 250 Mag x 3, 1974 400 Cross x 1, 1974 450 WR, 1975 250GP, 1976 250 WR, 1978 390 Auto, 1982.5 500 Gold Bullet. 1976 390 OR, 78 CCM

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2011, 02:05:02 PM »
Cool.. Tom's managed to get his hands on some pretty rare stuff, and they all look like brand new! :)

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2011, 02:14:57 PM »
Cool.. Tom's managed to get his hands on some pretty rare stuff, and they all look like brand new! :)
Yeah it's quite remarkable. I wonder what the total value of his collection is :o. 67 has featured more than one bike where bidding would start at $10,000. 

I bet the 'return on capital' isn't reflected by the entrance fee .

Start calculating........

« Last Edit: April 30, 2011, 02:23:01 PM by mx250 »

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2011, 03:01:53 PM »
1967 360 Viking, 1969 360 Cross, 1974 250 Mag x 3, 1974 400 Cross x 1, 1974 450 WR, 1975 250GP, 1976 250 WR, 1978 390 Auto, 1982.5 500 Gold Bullet. 1976 390 OR, 78 CCM

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2011, 08:32:39 AM »
Cool.. Tom's managed to get his hands on some pretty rare stuff, and they all look like brand new! :)
Yeah it's quite remarkable. I wonder what the total value of his collection is :o. 67 has featured more than one bike where bidding would start at $10,000. 

I bet the 'return on capital' isn't reflected by the entrance fee .

Start calculating........



WOW, look at that view!

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2011, 01:25:54 AM »
Never leave home without one!

So who's got the 85 units that came to Oz??? Would have been an expensive and unique bike so I can't imagine people trashing all of them or was it export figures for a tax or Gov funding scam?.


From motocrossaction magazine website;

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/CLASSIC-MOTOCROSS-IRON-1976-AMMEX-250MX--1625.aspx

Gary Jones won four consecutive 250 National Championships while racing for Yamaha, Honda and Can-Am. When he suffered a leg injury at Daytona and Can-Am bought out his contract, Gary and his dad Don took $70,000 and started their own motorcycle company. Not an easy task, but at the time (1975), Cooper Motorcycles was going out of business, and the Jones family bought the Mexican-based company and used the Frank Cooper-designed enduro bike as a prototype for the first Jones-Islo (the name would later be changed to Ammex, which stood for American-Mexican).

Under Mexican law, 68 percent of the Ammex had to be manufactured in Mexico, so the pieces that would be out-sourced included Sun rims, Diamond chain, Mikuni carbs and ART pistons. To ensure that the Mexicans didn’t use pot metal in the castings and frame, Jones shipped American-made chromoly and aluminum to the Saltillo, Mexico, Moto-Islo factory. The Mexican metallurgy was always suspect, especially in the crankshaft and transmission.

The Ammex borrowed its plate-style shift system from Maico, the dual-use kickstarter/shift shaft from CZ and a Yamaha YZ250 top-end could be slipped right onto the Ammex cases.

Ammex had high hopes, but unfortunately the Mexican peso was devalued—dropping from 12 pesos to the dollar to 120 pesos in less than a week. Since Ammex was a Mexican company, it was worth one-tenth of what it was the week before. Gary Jones lost his money and his dream of building his own motorcycle. Production dribbled on for a few years, but after the devaluation, the company was doomed.
1976 AMMEX 250MX FACTS

WHAT THEY COST
Good versions are incredibly hard to find. Prices start at $3000 for an intact core bike to $10,000 for a well restored perfect example.

MODELS
There were three versions: 250MX, 250 Enduro and 250 Flat Track (ridden by a young Eddie Lawson). There were ten 360cc versions built for Gary Jones to race, but they were never sold (and were identifiable by their blue or yellow colors)

PRODUCTION
A total of 5000 bikes were built, but only 1500 came to the USA. There were 200 sent to Canada, 85 to Australia, 25 to New Zealand and 20 to England. The rest went to Mexico and Cuba.

WHAT TO LOOK FOR
Finding an Ammex with Fox Airshox and an aluminum swingarm is a coup. Original bikes have Jones V-shaped bars.

PARTS SUPPLY
There is no reputable source of Ammex parts.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2011, 01:32:02 AM by cheapracer »

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2011, 07:52:07 AM »
Never leave home without one!

So who's got the 85 units that came to Oz??? Would have been an expensive and unique bike so I can't imagine people trashing all of them or was it export figures for a tax or Gov funding scam?.

What makes you think 85 of them came to Oz?
I'd be pretty sure none of them came here back in the day.

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2011, 08:27:29 AM »
Maybe the 85 were part of the 'lost stock' from the time of the Mexican economic collapse  ;) - no administrator was coming to Aus to try and recover them or see if they were shipped 8)
 Now Jonesy, where's that one you promised me! ;D

Oh, just read your post Cheapracer - looks like we are on the same page (literally!)
« Last Edit: May 18, 2011, 08:30:37 AM by Canam370 »
WANTED. Canams;all models,complete or parts.SWM stuff too!

I'm THE Thread Killer - when I post a thread dies!

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Re: Ammex
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 11:15:53 PM »
Maybe the 85 were part of the 'lost stock' from the time of the Mexican economic collapse  ;)

Yeah thats my thinking too, theres no way all of the Oz magazines could have missed 85 very special bikes coming here (Australia not China here!)   :D