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Offline Tomas

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wheel axles
« on: December 08, 2014, 09:57:59 PM »
are they 4130 or just carbon steel(1018) ?

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Re: wheel axles
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 10:37:56 PM »
Most stock axles are quite soft. Not much better than mild steel. The grade to use depends a lot on what you can buy. I had to make a 17mm axle for a widened Bultaco swingarm with a Honda wheel and used 1020. Mainly used 1020 because it was the only grade I could get in 17mm.

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Re: wheel axles
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 11:19:17 PM »
Thank you. I need one made to match 80 RM 125 wheel with 81 YZ 125 forks. I have 25mm piece of mild steel so i may just use that  :)

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Re: wheel axles
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 11:59:44 PM »
Unfortunately bike axles don't have markings on them so you can't work backwards to easily ID their material.

As a general rule shafts, axles, studs, bolts are made from 4140 high tensile steel or it's various equivalents. This is the workhorse construction steel supplied in a hardened and tempered condition but able to be taken to much higher strength and hardness without reducing it's toughness or fatigue resistance when required.

Judging by the way it machines, many motorcycle wheel axles are made from 4140 HT or a proprietary equivalent. Highly loaded bolts, like the swingarm pivot fasteners on a linkage bike can be a lot harder and stronger- more like a socket head cap screw aka Allen bolt which are the strongest most fatigue, resistant commercial bolts available.

4140 is readily available but the suppliers get a bit sniffy for non account holders wanting less than a length; which is normally about 6 metres. Still, it's worth trying Bohler Steel, Global Metals, Steelmark Eagle and Globe, Ian Stansfield Smith in Melbourne, and the like for some- you might get an off cut, or a rod that is downgraded and put aside because it is bent. Typically 4140 would probably sell for about 4 to 5 bucks a kilo retail making 20 mm rounds for axle stock about $10 a metre.






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Re: wheel axles
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 07:52:46 AM »
Most wreckers have a drum full of axles and they make fantastic bolts for swing arms n stuff.
The ones I bought were tough like 4140.
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