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1973 74 TM250 project
« on: February 15, 2009, 05:02:07 PM »
Im after a suzuki tm 250 to do up and race some pre 75 on i would like to do one up myself insted of buying one ready to race please pm me i you have a reasonably complete project it would be good if the bike is in Victoria so i dont need to worry about transport thanks Michael. :)
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2009, 08:34:34 PM »
CRITCHTON REMOVELIST IN GEELONG WILL PICK UP FROM QLD, NSW.

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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2009, 09:01:47 PM »
Ok no worries David thanks i will consider most locations in australia it would be good if it were in vic but that doesnt really matter does anyone have a project one they want to sell thanks Michael. :)
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2009, 10:47:11 AM »
How much do you want to spend ?
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2009, 05:26:10 PM »
Thing is i want a project i dont want to spend heaps to buy the bike i am more inclined to spend more to do one myself so i would say i just want a good solid base for a project a fairly complete one plastics and parts that arent hard to source dont bother me but engine and frame singarm and forks and stuff like wheels i will probably need i am not sure what i want to spend probably as little as possible but i realise these bikes are collectable and i will have to spend around the $1000 to get a project at all but i am saving up and if i see the right bike at the right price i would buy it thanks Michael. :)
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2009, 05:57:35 PM »
Micheal , I'm going in the opposite direction  ::) and building a Ts/Tm   plenty of parts still available for Ts models

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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2009, 08:25:32 PM »
Hi oldfart thats good but i really want the real deal even though a replica would be good i just like to have matching number things i dont have many bikes and im only a young bloke 16 so i know i can always get a ts and hot it up and race pre75 but i have had my eyes set on the suzuki tm 250 for a while now i have my viduro ride sorted the pe400. i would like to get a hold of a mates cr480 but i will be patient and just buy what i really want it seems alot of people are doing replicas these days and it is great for the sport it enables much more people to get involved i am happy just to ride my pe400 in the vinduros at the moment hopefully a tm250 will pop up soon thanks for the replys Michael.
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 04:55:53 PM »
Would you be interested in pre-70 TS250?

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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 06:45:15 PM »
Hi 52 im really after a pre75 tm250 im sure someone here is interested in a pre70 ts250 though thanks for the offer Michael. :)
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 06:51:23 PM »
Hi oldfart thats good but i really want the real deal even though a replica would be good i just like to have matching number things i dont have many bikes and im only a young bloke 16 so i know i can always get a ts and hot it up and race pre75 but i have had my eyes set on the suzuki tm 250 for a while now i have my viduro ride sorted the pe400. i would like to get a hold of a mates cr480 but i will be patient and just buy what i really want it seems alot of people are doing replicas these days and it is great for the sport it enables much more people to get involved i am happy just to ride my pe400 in the vinduros at the moment hopefully a tm250 will pop up soon thanks for the replys Michael.

you will be a long time looking for a matching number TM ;)

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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 07:01:41 PM »
Hi TM Bill if its to hard for me to get one i simply wont bother i would love to have one as i am looking at getting into pre75 and i know people say this isnt the best bike i would like to ride a suzuki and bikes do pop up i scored a very original complete running yamaha rd 250 a while ago that i wasnt even looking for but when i was offered it for $200 i had to get it i have been offered alot of bikes and gear like my marushin moto mg cost $0 i will keep looking something should come up thanks Michael. :)
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 07:28:58 PM »
Micheal , I wish you luck on this . There where a couple sold a few months back on Evilbay

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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 07:41:26 PM »
Hi TM Bill if its to hard for me to get one i simply wont bother i would love to have one as i am looking at getting into pre75 and i know people say this isnt the best bike i would like to ride a suzuki and bikes do pop up i scored a very original complete running yamaha rd 250 a while ago that i wasnt even looking for but when i was offered it for $200 i had to get it i have been offered alot of bikes and gear like my marushin moto mg cost $0 i will keep looking something should come up thanks Michael. :)

Michael dont get me wrong you will find a TM 250 and in the current economic climate a tidy original one will turn up in your price range  :)
Its just that the frame & engine numbers dont match on TMs  :) Good luck any leads ill pass them on to you Bill.

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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2009, 08:48:54 PM »
my bad tm bill i miss understood what your were saying if i was alive when all these were new i would know that the numbers dont match ;D im only 16 im prepared to wait i have looked at a couple of pre75's but the tm is what i want and i dont mind having to spend more to get a original bike and i never set out to get a race ready bike that someone has built i want to do my own to original specs and i know that some might do ts/tm replicas but i wouldnt enjoy doing that myself i would prefer a genuine ts 250 in the shed than a mock tm im not saying that is wrong to do that anything that gets more blokes on bikes on the track is a good thing but the whole ts tm thing im not a huge fan of myself i would really like a project genuine tm250 i dont have two many bikes a couple went in the fires but that isnt a big deal to me our mates house where they were he has lost everything bikes cars and so much centimental things like photos and war medals of his grandfathers i actually have his first bike though as i promised him i would do it up and i am just about to start work on it i have nearly everything for it it will be a great gift for him when its done i have my pe400 which i dont call excellent it is good though and i have done everything except paint myself so im very happy to have it and i ride it as often as possible and we sold a couple because they werent seeing use i am very happy with my yamaha rd250cd i think it and my pe400 i may keep forever. :)
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2009, 09:08:26 PM »
suzukis generally never had matching numbers
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2009, 09:12:52 PM »
Frosty the mock type or the TS/TM250 Oldfart refers to is really only a TS frame. The rest is 100% TM250 ;)

No offence intended here but I really don't understand why people who restore the TM's don't seem so interested in the '75 M models? They were the best of the lot after all and for mine it will become the more collectable in time as it is a model of some significance being the very last of the basic oldschool piston port engines design. To restore a TM250 is not cheap if you wish it to live up to expectations. Conservatively guestimating, plastics and tank, paint, stickers all up around $1000, wheels about the same, engine work say $500, shocks $400, cables $70, seat $100, tyres $200, bearings/chain/sprockets/brakes/ $250, this is not taking into account parts that are missing or need replating or the exhaust, airfilter, ignition, bars/levers/grips but with your initial purchase price of a grand the bike is already into you for $4000 or more for which money you could probably hunt a nice one down that's had all the hard work done. Maybe not the satisfaction but eh, it's all in your perspective. Just a different slant is all but either way you'll still end up with a sweet TM250 ;)
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2009, 09:40:36 PM »
i was told 75 models may have eligability problems in pre75 for rear travel reasons i just want to be able to race pre75 i like to do up my bikes not to live up to others expectations but to have fun in the end the money is not the biggest factor i know a friend who has been bought a brand new kx250 great for him i will still be riding my old bikes having just as much fun i see your point about the price but if you intend to keep the bike it doesnt really matter that much i know my pe has cost alot and i could have bought a good one for what i have spent but it is about the enjoyment i like to work on my own bikes i doubt i will ever buy a new bike i mean who can say they have never overspent on their cars and bikes i enjoy seeing a bit of a wreck turn into a nice bike i prefer to buy wrecks and spend more on them than a already restored bike it may seem stupid in some ways but i have never liked old bikes based on value i liked the idea that i can do up a bike that is 30 years old and still have as much fun as the guys riding new gear and old bikes have so much charecter especially 2 strokes. ;D
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2009, 11:07:15 PM »
Closest i got is a 75 TM with numbers  with in 6 digits. the rest are about 30 -40 out.

we should post all the cases in AU and do a swap- a- thon, and see how many engines we can match to the same frames numbers  :o :o ;D
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70  Jawa 2 valve speedway's

For sale -  PRE 75 Yamaha MX stuff, frame, motors and parts also some YAM DT1,2,A and Suzi TS bikes and stuff

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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2009, 11:14:57 PM »
are 75's pre75 eligable i would consider one if so i just want one i can race pre 75 on is there eligability problems with a 75.
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 12:33:26 AM »
it depends on if the classes are defined my model yrs or manufacture date. if its model yr then NO you cant ride a 75 model but if its by manufacture date then your ok. eg you could have a 75 model thats made in 12/74 and its ok for pre 75 but you can also have a 75 model that is made in 01/75 but its not ok. im not sure of the exact rules.
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Re: 1973 74 TM250 project
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2009, 10:54:11 AM »
MOMs now states that bikes must be 1974 MODELS (or earlier)...the old 31 Dec manufacture rule has gone..so no 75 model TM's..the ones with the rising sun on the tanks...OUT.. :)

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2009, 01:11:03 PM »
that makes it simple if its by model yr. so 74 models is the limit :)
Wanted - 1978 TS185 frame or frame&motor. Frame # TS1852-24007 up to TS1852-39022

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2009, 03:26:18 PM »
Always has been out. its not a follow on frame.  motor is OK if you put it in somthing else as its a follow on.   Frame out, motor is in.
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70  Jawa 2 valve speedway's

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